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i was def serious, i just wasnt sure if u were
like its all fun 2 talk abt in theory but if ur not into it im not going to be heartbroken or anything yknow?

and like
u know i want u to have a say too
if theres anyone ur like hard no i want u to say

I kind of like the idea of watching you enjoy yourself.
But this way I'm there in case anything goes too far, in case you get worn out, and I know you're taken care of.

We could do it as an orgy instead of like the inspiration of being a use someone party. Just friends of your getting together and seeing how things go.

There's a few I would hard no, but I think you know most of them.
They don't include anyone I know you're close to.
If that's what you're worried about.

like a horny bouncer? thats so hot. u can set the rules if u want, i'm into that, like if theres stuff u wanna see/dont wanna see
im more into it if its fun for u too

like
anyone i'm close to?

I'm always into your pleasure, Nick. You know that.
It'll be like our talks but the 3d version.
I do feel into it. We know the other has lovers. It'll be knowing you're safe and taken care of.

I want to say yes.
Though if there's others we would invite that would have troubles with it, then we have to consider.
I don't want to set things up to go bad.

feel free 2 put together a wishlist, positions, acts, kinks, blah blah blah. i like playing to an audience. i think that'd be fun

( understatement of the century )

is there
do u think
i mean

( nick stop hitting send )

do u think that there would be that much trouble

Trust me. I'll be watching everything. How could I not?
Maybe I'll just plan on having a seat for the entire show. Might play a bit but most of my attention on you.
Least until I take you home.

I'll have to find a venue. Maybe a back room at the Grey Room.

I think that depends on who you invite.
You want him there?
I can word the invite to include not letting personal feelings interrupt things.

it can be like interactive porn ;) i think youd make a good director
put magnus on the list he'll prob say yes

( which is the fun part of the conversation, the bit that's easy to chat about. but it's pretty obvious who they're talking about, and nick...hovers over several answers, types and deletes a lot before he starts responding again. )

i think
you should talk to him
i dont know if like
i dont know i just think that would be a good place to start
u know?

There's something to be said about seeing how they seek to bring you pleasure too.
What they like with you. The things they do for you that maybe I don't.
That I can use later.

It's not me with him I'm worried about.
It's those that would recognize him with you.

Do you think he has any interest in actually talking to your boyfriend though?

[ Part of him isn't even sure that Logan knows about their relationship, or cares for what that means to his relationship with Nick. ]

some people can be very creative its true
anything off limits? i'll have my list as well or w/e but yknow. if theres anything u dont want to see happen lets talk about it now

probably more than u'd think
we talk abt u sometimes

( admittedly the context is pretty much exclusively horny but....even so. )

idk just. see what he says. i'll worry about other people if it comes to that. see what the vibe is or w/e.

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I want safe words. For slow down and stop. I want it agreed that no matter what, if I call a slow down or a stop, things happen. Don't argue with me. We can talk it out later but not then.
I want you wear my marks going into it.
No collars. Not for this in front of me.
I want to talk about limits on violence.
I want this to be something you enjoy, that you get a lot out of, and while I know how much you like it rough, I don't want to see someone slapping you around.
Spankings are one thing. So is face fucking and riding you hard.

I like hearing that. I like how we have things, Nick. I don't want this to change that.

I'll talk to him and we can go from there. we have a bit of time before october.
thinking mid oct so not to interfere with other things at the end of the month.

yeah i think there's a time and a place for going hard on limits and its probably not
in this kind of a situation
but ok yeah i can agree to all of that. i trust you, you know. i know if you're looking out then its all going to be fine. you probably have a better idea of what's too much for me than i have, tbh.

( october is far away and he could absolutely leave it there. there's plenty on this topic that they can talk about that's far more distracting and interesting than the guest list.

but. it's something nick has been chewing on for a whole, and now that the (slightly unexpected) opportunity has kind of come up, nick's sticking on it more than he thought he would be. )

its not like
it doesnt matter if u guys dont get along i dont need u to become best friends or anything stupid like that
ragnor fucking hates him + we're still copacetic
but like
i'd be lying if i tried to act like i'm totally chill w everyone and their dog being tense and weird about him
does that make sense?

I want it to be a good time for you, and not one where you get hurt or disturbing for others.
Also, the end of the night? I take you home. I take care of you afterwards. That is my place and no one else's.

Thank you, Nick. Just know I am always going to do whatever I can to take care of you.

It makes sense, Nick. I get it. I don't know if I can promise anything but I'll do what I can.
I'll reach out, and you know I'm not judging him by what happened that day.
No more than I would want anyone to judge me by my video either. I do get that.
Though I would ask if there's more reasons to be upset than the video.

[ If Ragnor hated him, was there a reason? ]

just me and you at the end of the night, i like that. i dont think i'd wanna be with anyone else after a workout like that if it goes even half as well as i'd like haha
besides, i think youll deserve something a lil special at the end of it all, if ur gonna watch so patiently
im sure we can figure out a reward that fits how well u do

he hasnt done anything wrong. i think just
i dont know
i guess its hard for people to see why we wanna fuck around still
and its easier to blame him for being "irresponsible" ig than it is to understand it
ragnor just found out in a really bad way, thats why all that shit blew up the way it did ( ....sort of ) it wasnt like, yknow. how i told u

good because that is really nonnegotiable. I want you to have what you want and need, Nick, but I also have to be able to take care of you at the end of the night.

As for what I deserve at the end of the night? We'll discuss it then. Based on how you feel and how you're doing. okay? I don't want you pushing yourself. In the end, you're my boyfriend. I know you'll be there after that.

I'm going to say this as someone that didn't have to see the worst, okay? But just given what I know, I can imagine why some might be worried for you. I can see why they want to blame someone else for you being hurt.

I can't imagine how I would feel if I'd seen it, but I can imagine there are things I've been through that I've kept from everyone. Even you and Mikey. Things I know you would be upset about, so I can get why some want someone to blame.

I will get to know him though, okay? Open that door so that I know him, not what this place had done to him.

[ He wants to hope what he finds is a better man than he thinks either Nick or Michael would find Elijah. Which is why he's trying his best to go into this with open eyes. For Nick, and to be sure this isn't Nick being blind as Kyle had been. Not from the video but in general. ]

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